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How big a problem is an f/11 telephoto? Canon’s new lenses look mad… but aren’t

Canon RF 800mm F11 IS STM
(Image credit: James Artaius)

Canon has caused quite a storm. As well as releasing the ground-breaking EOS R5 and EOS R6, it has launched two new inexpensive telephoto prime lenses for its EOS R cameras, the RF 600mm f/11 IS STM and RF 800mm f/11 IS STM, both with a fixed aperture of f/11. That is a VERY small aperture for a telephoto lens, but is it really the problem that many people might imagine?

Is an f/11 telephoto a problem?

It certainly sounds like it. Compared to the maximum apertures on other telephoto lenses, f/11 is hopeless. How can anyone possibly shoot anything at that aperture?

Well, here’s how.

1) The AF systems in Canon’s new EOS R5 and EOS R6 cameras, will still work at f/11, though you are restricted to a central cluster of AF points about the same size as a DSLR’s (so not full frame coverage). And because these cameras have electronic rather than optical viewfinders, the viewfinder image (and the LCD image) will be as bright as with any other lens.

2) High ISO performance and sensor technology has come a long way. With the new EOS R cameras, we’re told the high ISO performance is so good that you do not have to worry about pushing it as high as you need.

*We do not yet know how for sure how well these f/11 lenses will work with Canon’s existing EOS R and EOS RP cameras, but our understanding is that the AF will work in the same way.

(Image credit: Peter Fenech)

You need different shutter speeds for different sports, depending on whether you are 'panning' or 'freezing'. For our comparison we've picked a shutter speed of 1/500sec. (Image credit: Rod Lawton)

Will an f/11 lens affect your shutter speeds?

Only if you insist on using a fixed, low ISO setting. The solution is very simple. 

1) Set your camera to Auto ISO

2) Select an appropriate shutter speed for your subject

3) Start shooting

The camera will automatically adjust the ISO to give you the correct exposure at f/11 with the shutter speed you’ve chosen.

There will come a point where you start to see an unacceptable degradation in image quality, but that might be at much higher ISO settings than you expect. And you will still have a sharp shot.

There will be plenty of people who object on principle to high ISOs and consider any degradation in image quality unacceptable. That’s fine, but these lenses are not for those people. 

Canon's new f/11 lenses will need sky-high ISOs indoors, but how many times will you need a 600mm or an 800mm lens indoors? Most indoors sports will be shot 'wide', not 'long'. (Image credit: James Artaius)

What ISOs will I need with an f/11 lens?

Here’s a handy exposure table to give you an idea. It gives estimated exposure values in different conditions, but these do vary so this is only a guide. 

We’ve chosen a shutter speed of 1/500sec as broadly what you might use in sports photography to freeze most subjects but not eliminate all movement (you can, of course, make your own calculations with different shutter speeds). The aperture, as we know, is fixed at f/11. The only thing that can change is the ISO.

LightingEVShutter speedApertureISO
Bright snow/sand161/500secf/11ISO 125
Sunny151/500secf/11ISO 250
Slight overcast141/500secf/11ISO 500
Overcast131/500secf/11ISO 1,000
Heavy overcast121/500secf/11ISO 2,000
...
Indoor sports91/500secf/11ISO 16,000

ISO 2000, our worst-case outdoor figure, is not high at all by modern camera standards and you may hardly notice any loss in quality (people’s standards do vary, of course), so an f/11 lens can still give you good shutter speeds for action even in poor outdoor lighting.

Indoor lighting (and fading daylight/dusk) may be more problematic. Conditions vary hugely, but we’ve estimated an EV (exposure value) of 9. To get a shutter speed of 1/500sec in these conditions, you’re going to need ISO 16,000 or thereabouts which is, even with modern cameras, pushing it somewhat. This is where a faster lens will make a difference… but even if you had an f/8 or even an f/5.6 lens of this focal length, you would still need an ISO of 4,000-8,000.

Do Canon’s 600mm and 800mm f/11 lenses make any sense?

They do! The small aperture will continue to be controversial, but it’s no barrier in outdoor lighting, and perhaps still usable indoors. 

The point about these lenses is that they are portable, and they are affordable. Those two factors alone make them a real breath of fresh air.

We won't talk about Canon's new 1.4x and 2x Extenders just yet, because these will drop these lenses' apertures to f/16 and f/22. Even we're scared now.

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  • sctm81
    Your shutter speed of 1/500 IMO is a far too generous for capturing telephoto subjects in motion. Even for still subjects you need an absolute minimum of 1/600 for a 600mm lens and even then you will have to use great technique and will still end up with plenty of not-quite-tack-sharp images. Most people will try to go double that for still subjects, i.e. 1/1200, just to compensate for random camera shake. Once you factor in subject motion, your camera shake will increase invariably as you are trying to frame your subject plus you need a higher shutter speed anyway to freeze the motion which will lead you to shoot at 1/2,000 often at 1/2,500 or 1/3,200 if it's birds in flight.

    F11 does put you at a significant disadvantage. I believe there are more practical options for affordable super telephoto lenses like the third party 150-600 super zooms which will also give you a nicer depth of field.
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  • Eeps
    You forget that the R5 and R6 have IBIS, which means they provide up to 5 additional stops of stability so 1/500 of a second should be more than sufficient to combat hand shake. 1/500 should also be sufficient for freezing action when shooting indoor sports. If shooting BIF, well, don't shoot them indoors.

    p.s. But if you're using these lenses with the R or RP, then, yeah, these lenses suck. And FWIW I agree with you that there are a lot of better options, although very few that go as long and are as light.
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