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Old 22-08-09, 11:59 PM
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Old 23-08-09, 07:24 AM
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Peter has articulated and totally encapsulated everything that all my contacts have said about the site. It's a terrible disappointment to those that have waited patiently for it to appear. Instead of a bright new world we seem to have just a rehash of the old one. It's to be hoped that notice is taken of the advice that Peter has offered and the site will eventually take off and become what was expected by everyone, especially those few that have tried to help and been shunned.
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Old 23-08-09, 07:44 AM
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Well said Peter!

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Old 23-08-09, 08:14 AM
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Yes, well said. It will be interesting to see what, if any, response you get.
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Old 23-08-09, 11:46 AM
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Yes, very well put Peter, though I wouldn't hold out any hope of things changing.

Photoradar as it stands really is a case of 'too little too late', the once vibrant community that existed at DCM was destroyed as a result of the same attitudes and behaviours that we're seeing here, the same meat with different gravy! The team just don't seem to get it, perhaps it's down to a lack of maturity or experience, I wonder how many of them have ever worked in a customer facing environment before. Perhaps Future is paying peanuts and can only attract the relative quality of staff, who knows?

I get the feeling that Photoradar only exists because they finally had to accept that DCM was dead and buried, all the broken promises, the dismissive attitudes, the complacency......... finally caught up with them! The realisation that their credit was all used up and their customers had voted with their feet seems to have led to a hasty rethink. This site looks and feels like it's been in development for a matter of weeks not years, the decision to betalaunch can only have been born out of panic, it was months away from being properly tested and still is in my opinion.

Whatever, the net result is clear for everyone to see, a total PR disaster, a site that's being laughed at all over the internet, do they really think any serious minded photographer is going to want to join up for this? What I ( and many others) find particularly irritating is the pretence that everything is fine and dandy, the abject failure of the team to acknowledge their customers concerns and the all too familiar "It's free, if you don't like it you can leave" response to anything that's less than positive. Well guess what, the customers are leaving and in their droves, all the while the team are apparently fantasising about the 108,000 active members. Is it just me, or do others find this an insult to your intelligence? I mean, who do they think they're kidding?

Shutting DCM and rebranding the new site gave Future an opportunity to wipe the slate clean and deliver a site that would trash the opposition, once again they've conspired to make a mess of it and it's difficult to imagine how they can retrieve the situation.

Very disappointing!

Paul

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Old 23-08-09, 11:47 AM
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I think Peter deserves to have his "Junior" status removed, just for that post alone.
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Old 23-08-09, 04:34 PM
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Well said Peter everything that has been stated by all above I agree with and can relate to, more than I can say about this site at this time. I hope they start listening to us before it is too late.
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Old 23-08-09, 08:10 PM
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Well said Peter.
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Old 23-08-09, 09:27 PM
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I'd really love to be around to see how this discussion develops and see the responses of the PR team (if any). But I'm off on holiday to Canada for three and a bit weeks so that will not be possible. So I've decided to escalate the issue. I WANT this site to succeed, but just cannot see how that will happen with the current approach.

So I have printed this thread, and a selection of the other threads that highlights the issues as I see them and have just fiinished writing to Simon Wear, the Chief Operating Officer of Future Publishing , with a copy to Robert Price, the Chief Executive of Future UK.

If I didn't care about this site I wouldn't start playing hardball, I just wish the PR team took the future of this site as seriously as the DCM regulars did.

It'll be interesting to see what happens here, what happens to the site, and what sort of response I get from the Future execs when I return in just over three weeks. With a bit of luck I'll find an Internet Cafe that'll let me check on progress whiltst I'm away.

Keep up the pressuee folks!

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Old 24-08-09, 08:49 AM
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Hi Peter
Interested to read your post. Rest assured you're not offending me or the team with it, and as comprehensive as your criticism is, believe it or not we do take it as constructive. When it comes to feedback to all of these threads, it is difficult to reply to them all when we're so close to launch and when we've (rightly or wrongly) invited so many people to give us feedback on the site while in beta. I'm sure it's only repeating what you probably think is an old excuse, but we're aware of all the posts and bugs and working through as many as possible in priority order based on how critical they are.

I recognise that without responses to every thread/post, that it could look like we're ignoring people's feedback. Again, rest assured we're not.

Ironically, it should be much easier to spend time replying to forum posts once the site's live (when we're not concentrating so much on fixing bugs). In the meantime, thanks for the ongoing feedback...

All the best

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