Developing a set of rules for the Comp

[HinFrance]

Jim, a RAW image can never be straight out of the camera - it always has to be converted by some third party software - however a jpg created by the camera's internals really is 'straight out of the camera'.

I only mention it because the issue was raised. I usually shoot in RAW+jpg and end up binning the RAW because the jpg is better - but sometimes I use the RAW if the dynamic range in the jpg is a bit flat - hence the belt and braces approach.

Now to wait for the facteur (postie to you guys), I bought a used 50mm f1.4 PKAF from eBay for my Christmas present and it still hasn't arrived. Do you think the snow might have something to do with it? Or maybe it's stuck in Basingstoke?

[bsmith]

f1.4 lucky man Howard, its probably in the chunnel in one of those trains I hope it arrives soon. I fancy one too but as you know I've been a little more than kind to myself lately. I think the rules should exclude f1.4 lenses till I get one .

[Delamanda]

Re: New Rules

Almost in agreement but (1) and (5) seem a bit contradictory - perhaps a tad more clarification?
Del

[jinky]

I`m fine with whatever is agreed but think there would need to definition of when the seubject is set. Some might set Wednesday, others Friday meaning a different timr frame evry week at the whim / availability of the previous winner. Perhaps we should just say it must be set by the end of Wednesday and then images up untuil Sunday midnight are acceptable if that is what people want. I must admit though that I like the tight time frame of the weekend which helps organise my head. It might also level the playing field as people like me not working will have extra days to take advantage of weather / other opportunities presenting themselves. But it`s a democracy so whatever people feel.
Cannot call it the weekend comp then though.

Re: equipment exclusions as Falke was talking about I think the spirit of the comp was that the subject should not exclude anyone by weather conditions/ season etc. Once we start putting in equipment restrictions it would really get messy. Not all have flash perhaps,1.4 lenses as above, very wide angle (as used by me this weekend) - where do we stop?

[Sarasocke]

Originally Posted by jinky

I`m fine with whatever is agreed but think there would need to definition of when the seubject is set. Some might set Wednesday, others Friday meaning a different timr frame evry week at the whim / availability of the previous winner. Perhaps we should just say it must be set by the end of Wednesday and then images up untuil Sunday midnight are acceptable if that is what people want. I must admit though that I like the tight time frame of the weekend which helps organise my head. But it`s a denocracy so whatever people feel.
Cannot call it the weekend comp then though.

Re: equipment exclusions as Falke was talking about I think the spirit of the comp was that the subject should not exclude anyone by weather conditions/ season etc. Once we start putting in equipment restrictions it would really get messy. Not all have flash perhaps,1.4 lenses as above, very wide angle (as used by me this weekend) - where do we stop?

I agree with everything Paul's said here.

The tight time frame has always been OK with me. We have a parallel comp running at Camera Craniums which runs for a week and I think the two complement each other well for those taking part in both.

I think a fixed time scale is best, otherwise it could get too messy, one week wed one week thurs one week friday etc.

Also agree with Paul - limiting equipment isn't really a good idea. Paul himself as often shown what can be done with limited gear - his shots taken in the bath are legendary But if someone wants to used a fully equipped studio, OK.

Del is right, points 1 and 5 contradict each other, but I guess that will be sorted when it's clear what point 5 is going to be.

I'm still easy whatever is decided.

I think the Saturday Sunday tight time scale is good for exercising my grey cells

[flake]

Just a little note about layers and merging them. Often to make a created image several images are required, one of the past entries I did was a dress with the face of the devil in it, the main part of the image was photographed on the weekend, but the layer image was not.
I have a folder of textures to use for layers, but obviously none of these are created on the weekend. Exif data can be completely altered when several layers are flattened, especially when multiple layers are used, so what is the feeling about rules for this?

Originally Posted by flake

Just a little note about layers and merging them. Often to make a created image several images are required, one of the past entries I did was a dress with the face of the devil in it, the main part of the image was photographed on the weekend, but the layer image was not.
I have a folder of textures to use for layers, but obviously none of these are created on the weekend. Exif data can be completely altered when several layers are flattened, especially when multiple layers are used, so what is the feeling about rules for this?

I would say all elements should be shot over the weekend

[bsmith]

I agree, ALL elements must be in the same time frame. I know its not possible to prove it, but whats the point of winning if you bent the rules, it would be a hollow victory.

The question regarding equipment has been misunderstood I think, you can use any kit you like to take the image, but must not stated in the subject, Macro shots, wide angle shots etc, if you have it use it to create whatever you like so long as it fits the brief.

How about a compromise on the time frame, open it from friday AM your time to Sunday PM your time ?

Bob

That's OK by me