Nikon vs Canon Feature

[MattUK]

I was surprised within the feature to see the D7000 scored so low, apparently on 2 main points:

1) No articulated screen (though this arguably has dubious value for the prosumer user)
2) No multiple exposure capability

I'm surprised at point 2 - the D700 features exposure and WB bracketing.

It appeared to be a bit of fudging to keep the score 2-2, and remain 'neutral'...?

I personally think Nikon and Canon are pretty equal, however at the moment, with the newly released D3100 and the D5100, Nikon justifiably does have the edge - though I'm sure it won't be long before Canon responds in kind to restore the balance.

[Geoff Harris]

Canon and Nikon came out even stevens as that was the genuine score.

We certainly didn't fudge the scores to get a draw. It'd actually have been more 'news worthy' to have a clear winner

Even though it was a draw, the test showed what we suspected, that Canon is stronger at the higher end than at the lower end....

Cheers, Geoff Harris, Editor

[donoreo]

It makes sense to me. Canon and Nikon keep such a close on eye on each other that it makes sense that things would balance out pretty even.

[wotcars]

what surprised me was the nikon d5100 had an overall higher score than the d7000, and that the d5100 had a better score in the iso than the D7000 yet in the graph Raw noise the D7000 showed a better result ... confused i am perhaps some one could explane to me what im reading wrong,

[MattUK]

Indeed. And in the review on this site dated Nov 2010 (http://www.photoradar.com/reviews/pr...4&t=1289576015) it scored 2,600 in the ISO 200 resolution test, the same as the 60D - not the 2,400 this feature states?

I'm not actually trying to champion the D7000 as such, as I don't really care what score the camera gets - I just found this feature's results somewhat dubious.

[donoreo]

Originally Posted by MattUK

Indeed. And in the review on this site dated Nov 2010 (http://www.photoradar.com/reviews/pr...4&t=1289576015) it scored 2,600 in the ISO 200 resolution test, the same as the 60D - not the 2,400 this feature states?

I'm not actually trying to champion the D7000 as such, as I don't really care what score the camera gets - I just found this feature's results somewhat dubious.

I think that Nov 2010 test was done before Angela started. She has apparently whipped the testing into shape.

[Angela Nicholson]

Originally Posted by wotcars

what surprised me was the nikon d5100 had an overall higher score than the d7000, and that the d5100 had a better score in the iso than the D7000 yet in the graph Raw noise the D7000 showed a better result ... confused i am perhaps some one could explane to me what im reading wrong,

The cameras are assessed against expectations/aspirations at their level, otherwise professional level cameras would probably always score 5/5 while entry-level models would fairly very badly, when in fact they are ideally suited to their target audience.

As I have said elsewhere on this forum, the D7000 is an excellent camera, but it is £100 more expensive than the EOS 60D and it doesn’t have an articulated screen (which promotes shooting from creative angles) or the in-camera image rating which is very useful. The D7000 is also prone towards overexposure and the AF struggles more than the EOS 60D’s when light-levels drop.

As for the resolution scores, the D7000 sample we had in for this test failed to achieve quite the same result as the previous body we had in. I have to say the reproduction of the chart in the magazine hasn’t done the D7000 any favours here – but we always assess the score on-screen.

The noise graphs show the signal to noise ratio (SNR) for the JPEG files as this reflects what the manufacturers consider to be the ideal end result. Generally, a high value means there is a high signal and comparatively low noise – which is good. The D5100 and D7000 have the same sensor, which means that it is the processing that is responsible for the difference in their output and the SNR. The D5100 JPEGs appear to be processed to reveal more detail, which in turn means there is more noise – and a lower SNR.

Angela


Angela

[MattUK]

Thanks for the response Angela, but in-camera image rating? Does anyone who has that feature actually use it?

What about the comment that the D7000 doesn't have multiple exposure capability?

[greenwing]

Originally Posted by MattUK

... but in-camera image rating? Does anyone who has that feature actually use it?

My camera has it. It's marked with a wastebasket, and I use it frequently.

Chris

[greenwing]

Originally Posted by Angela Nicholson

... the D7000 is an excellent camera, but it is £100 more expensive than the EOS 60D...

I tend to think that the D7000 is batting closer to the 7D, and the 60D has the D5100 for company.

Chris