Save Our Forests

[amk1977]

Originally Posted by KeithT

I have just received an email from my MP's office to say they received my email, and they are snowed under with correspondence concerning this subject, and that my MP will respond to me a.s.p. That's good news, as it shows people are not letting go lightly. I think the Forestry Commission has done an incredible job since its formation in 1919, though it has evolved quite a bit since then. I see no reason for this non ministerial department to be disbanded to be honest, other than to hand our heritage back to the land barons for whatever purpose they want to put it to. But we shouldn't let this take our eye off the political ball, as it is my opinion that changes to the way health management in the NHS is to be handed to GP's will also make poorer surgeries across the country unable to offer expensive treatments to patients. We are in for some major changes to lifestyle in this country I think!

With regard to the NHS, it seems increasingly like privatisation via the backdoor, using GP's as a portal.

What makes me pig sick about this country or more correctly, the facist politicians, is that we have no money for the citizens of the UK when it comes to health, education, social security for the elderly but, we've got plenty for illegal wars, bank bail outs and shoving this nation further down the sewer towards total European intergration. Our parents and grandparents fought a world war to prevent Hitler having his dream of a European super state. Now we are forced into it without any referendum on the subject. European law trumps British law now. The soverignty of this country is being washed away daily by bureaucrats in Brussels.

The government doesn't represent the people of this country. They haven't for a long time. They are there to represent corportate interests through revolving doors. We have the illusion of choice. It wouldn't matter who got into power at the last election because whether they wear a blue, red or yellow badge, they are ALL make up the big government party, merely passing the baton in a relay race towards globalisation.

You are totally correct Keith. We are going to see some MAJOR lifestyle changes in this country when the full effects of the austerity measures kick in. Ultimately, we have ourselves to blame as society's apathy towards politics has increased dramatically in recent years, as people are more concerned with booze, football, celebrity and mind numbing TV for the masses. It is also our ignorance of fractional reserve banking that has resulted in the sad economic state of the world.

" It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

To explain in layman's terms how it works, watch the following link Modern Money Mechanics

A brief history of how the bankers enslaved the UK and US with perpetual debt The American Dream

[MadasaFruitbat]

I'm in and it is sent. How am I to walk through misty trees taking photo's when they have put up the barbely wire !!

[AndyStevens]

Done - hope I'm not too late!

[KeithT]

Originally Posted by amk1977

With regard to the NHS, it seems increasingly like privatisation via the backdoor, using GP's as a portal.

What makes me pig sick about this country or more correctly, the facist politicians, is that we have no money for the citizens of the UK when it comes to health, education, social security for the elderly but, we've got plenty for illegal wars, bank bail outs and shoving this nation further down the sewer towards total European intergration. Our parents and grandparents fought a world war to prevent Hitler having his dream of a European super state. Now we are forced into it without any referendum on the subject. European law trumps British law now. The soverignty of this country is being washed away daily by bureaucrats in Brussels.

The government doesn't represent the people of this country. They haven't for a long time. They are there to represent corportate interests through revolving doors. We have the illusion of choice. It wouldn't matter who got into power at the last election because whether they wear a blue, red or yellow badge, they are ALL make up the big government party, merely passing the baton in a relay race towards globalisation.

You are totally correct Keith. We are going to see some MAJOR lifestyle changes in this country when the full effects of the austerity measures kick in. Ultimately, we have ourselves to blame as society's apathy towards politics has increased dramatically in recent years, as people are more concerned with booze, football, celebrity and mind numbing TV for the masses. It is also our ignorance of fractional reserve banking that has resulted in the sad economic state of the world.

" It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

To explain in layman's terms how it works, watch the following link Modern Money Mechanics

A brief history of how the bankers enslaved the UK and US with perpetual debt The American Dream

It seems the only way things will change in this country, is for people to revolt against injustice in the same manner that Greece, Turkey and now Egypt are doing. Violence seems to be the only way politicians will sit up and listen. This is because they genuinely feel they are above and beyond reach when it comes to public reaction.

I'm not a lover of violence! Neither am I a revolutionist! But I am bright enough to see that if Politicians don't get down from their high horses and start listening to the people, then there are those who do believe in violent protest and they will provide it; as the students have shown us recently. And, of course, there was the Toxteth and Brixton riots of a couple of decades back to illustrate just how out of hand it can all get don't forget. We are living in troubled times. Much of it brought about by power hungry bankers and politicians...

[amk1977]

I agree Keith. It won't be until there are revolts against the governments, through mass demonstrations which will most likely lead to violence and all out rioting, that politicians will stop acting for corporate interests and actually represent the people that they were elected by. At least for a while.

All you hear on the news are measures that the government needs to take, in the form of service cuts and increased taxation of the public. You don't hear a single MP standing up and actually highlighting and denoucing the corruption of the banking system to which we are all in servitude to, whether we realise it or not.

The closest thing has been Vince Cable complaining about the banker bonuses, as them handing themselves billions in bonuses is rubbing the public's nose in it just a little too much and is causing heat for the government.

It makes me laugh when I hear the talking heads say "the government is introducing plans to create 1000 jobs" or "is injecting millions of pounds of government money to kick start the economy". Its a complete misnoma. There is no such thing as "government money". Only taxpayers money but, the former is a term coined by the media which only disassociates the viewer from that fact.

Jobs created by the government consume wealth. That money has to come from the private sector and kills jobs off as a result. It is only by lessening the burdens on the private sector, that businesses can grow, employ people and generate wealth. We now have 20% VAT AND increases in income tax and national insurance. That is the exact opposite of what should be happening and is another nail in the British economies coffin!

What we are seeing now is a return to serfdom, albeit it a high tech one. The private sector is shedding jobs left, right and centre and those left employed are being forced to undertake the roles that their colleagues had performed. If you don't like it, there are 10 people ready to take your place because they are desperate for a job.

I too am not a lover of violence but all of this is just history repeating. The power hungry push the masses that bit too hard. Eventually the oppressed have nothing to lose and push back. As Thomas Jefferson once said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

However, I think there does need to be a revolution, not a violent one but more of a mass awakening and understanding of what is happening in the world. Fractional reserve banking cannot remain the linchpin of the worlds economies. Creating money out of thin air, backed by nothing but the money already created out of thin air will only lead down the path that every other fiat paper currency trodden before it - hyperstagflation and economic collapse.

[duncan22]

Have already responded via another website.
Glad this item has been posted in various forums.
Of all the things the government should be attending to and they spend time trying to fix something that does not need fixing is beyond me.
No company is going to purchase or lease a forest unless there is a profit to be made and that will certainly not be in the interests of any of us.

[F11]

What really gets to me is that we seem to have a Government that don't actually think people need to earn a living or have money? Only last night we had some politician on TV winging and moaning about how terrible an MP's life is on the money they are paid? What a laugh, this is how far removed politicians are from the real world. Today we have heard that EDF Energy are increasing the price again of gas and electric. We are already being held to ranson by a French company and a government that just lets them get away with it. When are the British public going to wake up and realise we are slowly and methodically being pounded into the ground and there won't be a penny left in the kitty for anything.... Personally I feel quite demoralised and worry intensly about what the young and particularly the old are going to face in the years ahead.

[Stormsong]

Via the 38 Degrees campaign site, I have found out that my MP voted against the rethink. I am FURIOUS. I know where he lives - eggs sound like a good idea for missiles. Prat.

Regards,
Denise

[ABERS]

Originally Posted by amk1977

I too am not a lover of violence but all of this is just history repeating. The power hungry push the masses that bit too hard. Eventually the oppressed have nothing to lose and push back. As Thomas Jefferson once said "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants."

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The Poll Tax all over again! ???

[KeithT]

Originally Posted by ABERS

The Poll Tax all over again! ???

That was a softy's rally, Alan. This weekend in Luton there are two groups out demonstrating: The EDL (English Defence League) and the opposing group, UAF (Unite Against Fascism). That should be interesting! There is to be a big police presence there, so I hear.