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Well my thanks to you all, but after all that it seems it may be the camera, how did i get to this you may wonder, well first step was to eliminate the lenses as the cause, so i went to my local Jessops and using a much better lens rattled of some shots on an EOS 600D and some of my 60D, we downloaded them and went into 100% the images on my 60D are definately fuzzy and show unacceptable levels of noise at ISO 200 the image from the 600D was better than the 60D on the same settings, we carried numerous tests and got a few members of staff involved and it was a unanimous decision that for a £900 body the quality was poor, one member of staff said it even looked like a mobile phone picture, so its being sent to Tunbridge wells, i hope i do not receive a no fault found!
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