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Thanks for that Ian, exactly what i wanted.
TBH i have a reason for the lack of legs on that photo. I am in a pretty bad way with one of my legs atm and even though i tried at the time, i couldnt get bent down enough and in time to take the shot as you described. I understand what you are saying though and point taken. My daughter was also starting to shout that a swan was coming at her so she wasnt up for hanging around either :-)
I hadnt noticed the overhanging branch on the black & white shot so will check that out later.
No chance of getting anywhere nearer the posts other than zooming. I am unsteady on tarmac atm, on the banks of a tarn i am an accident waiting to happen. Again, i hadnt really considered the implications of what you are suggesting, so thanks.
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