Hmm! I don't usually reply to posts like this, but I can't help wondering who you feel would be the ideal person to populate such a diverse and friendly forum? I have never been to a Council run social club before so I couldn't possibly comment on that one; but desperate housewives? Well that's a new one on me. Thank goodness such places like this are full of diverse peoples. It would be a boring place if every post stuck rigidly to the technical photographic speak only brief. The great thing about website forums is no one forces anyone to stick around if they don't like what they see or hear. Hope you find a home that suits your expectations soon.