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Bluey71 - are you saying the kit lens with the Nikon isn't very good? It does seem to be the same with most 'kit' lenses - you pay the money for the camera and the kit lens is added to make you think you've got a bargain. I hardly ever use my kit lens now.
In the Photo Club I'm the President of, I strongly discourage 'equipment talk' - the camera brand, or how many MegaPixels, or how fast the lens is, is totally insignificant when it comes to making a good photograph. If a competition judge comes along and suggests a picture would have been better if somebody had "used a Canon", or "a top quality L series lens" or other such nonsense, they won't be coming back.
It may be relevant when comparing the works of two photographers who shoot exactly the same subjects - nature, sport, journalism etc - but photo club members are usually 'all-rounders', trying to do their best with their kit. We have informal groups of members who get together for nature (mainly) or landscapes or creative work - they can discuss the equipment among themselves... in the case of the nature shooters, it's fair for them to compare the merits of, for example, a Canon 300mm f/2 L series against the much cheaper Tamron 300mm f/5.6.
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