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Originally Posted by xavier
it would seem I got it wrong but I thought if sume one hired you for lets say a Wedding or a portrait shoot they owned the rights to that shoot or am I wrong in this again? or is it in the case of sume publication?
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In the absence of any agreement or employment contract that states otherwise, the copyright remains with the photographer. When you hire a wedding photographer you're paying for their time and skills, and you'll usually get to choose a limited number of prints, and often and album or photo book within the cost (simplistically; what you actually get will vary with cost and what the photographer chooses to offer). But if you want additional copies, or your guests want copies, then you would need to pay extra to get these from the photographer.
If you shoot for an employer then it's
probable (check the terms of employment to make sure) that the employer will own the rights under the terms of your employment contract; and shoots for some clients (magazines for example) may involve the rights being transferred to the client, but if that was the case then you'd expect to be paid a lot more as a result.
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becouse I'm quite confused about who has the copyrights on certian shoots.
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The photographer, unless the rights are transferred by the photographer to someone else.
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and as for the when & where to use a "model release form". It just that one lad said on sirimo.co.uk that you only need the form when the shoot is used for endorsing goods or service from sume company is this right or wrong? its just that I thought if one plans th publish the shoot or show the shoot in a galery you need the release form.
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Most commercial uses will require a model release if there's a recognisable person in the image. However what's considered commercial doesn't include everything that can earn money - you don't need a release for artistic uses, so if you want to display a photo in an exhibition you can without one, you can sell prints too. If you want to include images in a book, you can, and they can be used in the press without a release if they're newsworthy too.