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howard09 02-09-11 11:45 PM

Flash
 
Hi

I'm after a flash for my nikon D7000 and I was hoping to spend no more than £100 but will stretch to £150. What can I get?

Also what's the difference between the SB600 and SB800 apart from the cost?

Cheers

Shaun

greenwing 03-09-11 08:46 AM

The SB-600 can't act as a master/commander, and only has Manual & TTL modes. The SB-800 can be a commander, and has AA, A, GN, RPT and SU-4 modes as well as Manual & TTL. The SB-800's head can tilt down as well as up. The SB-800 is more powerful - GN38 vs. 30. It has a built-in bounce card, PC and TTL connector sockets, an external power connector, and a 5th battery option. And it comes with gels and a diffuser.

Chris

jet_kit 03-09-11 01:40 PM

Hi,
You get more bang for your buck by moving away from Nikon.
Consider the Metz 44 @ £145, Metz 50 @ £180 or the Nissin Di622 @ £129
All superb flashguns, more powerful than Nikon and a whole lot cheaper.

greenwing 03-09-11 02:33 PM

Chirs, I tend to agree with the sentiment, but sometimes have doubts about recommending off-brand flashguns. It's difficult enough to find help if having problems with a Nikon camera and Nikon speedlight. Getting help with some obscure off-brand flash may be near to impossible. You & I may not need help; but we may not be able to help those that do.

I've looked into off-brand flashguns before and found it difficult to understand just what they offer in terms of CLS support. I've just taken a look at the Metz website and I'm happier now, if I wanted a 3rd speedlight I might look at theirs. The Nissin site I'm not so impressed with.

Edit: We need to be careful with Guide Numbers, too. The Metz 44 is quoted at GN 44, but that's at ISO 100 and 105mm zoom. The SB-800 is GN 56 at ISO 100, 105mm. I think (but don't have an SB-600 book handy) that makes the Metz 44 about equal to the SB-600 in power.

Oh, I forgot from the list earlier - the SB-800 zooms more than the SB-600.

Chris

greenwing 04-09-11 12:01 PM

Does Howard09 ever come back & say thanks, or I don't understand, or anything? Or does he just go off & ask another question? Started 39 threads; posted 58 times. That's less than 50% return to threads started.

jet_kit 04-09-11 03:04 PM

[QUOTE=greenwing;61633]Chirs, I tend to agree with the sentiment, but sometimes have doubts about recommending off-brand flashguns. It's difficult enough to find help if having problems with a Nikon camera and Nikon speedlight. Getting help with some obscure off-brand flash may be near to impossible. You & I may not need help; but we may not be able to help those that do.

I've looked into off-brand flashguns before and found it difficult to understand just what they offer in terms of CLS support. I've just taken a look at the Metz website and I'm happier now, if I wanted a 3rd speedlight I might look at theirs. The Nissin site I'm not so impressed with.

Edit: We need to be careful with Guide Numbers, too. The Metz 44 is quoted at GN 44, but that's at ISO 100 and 105mm zoom. The SB-800 is GN 56 at ISO 100, 105mm. I think (but don't have an SB-600 book handy) that makes the Metz 44 about equal to the SB-600 in power.

Oh, I forgot from the list earlier - the SB-800 zooms more than the SB-600.

Chris[/QUOTE]

Hi Chris,

Point taken.
However, it's over 20 years since I had anything like proper customer service from Nikon. In the 60's I would visit their offices in Tokyo and be treated like a long-lost brother. Now, if you're not waving large wads of cash in their faces they couldn't care less about you.
If it wasn't for the huge investment I have in their equipment, I would drop them tomorrow.
Sorry to have to say this but my dealings with Nikon's so-called 'Customer Services' over the last couple of years have been abysmal and complaints to higher management have been routinely ignored.
They're not the company they used to be.

thefonz78 06-09-11 06:45 PM

I can recommend the yongnuo yn465. Cost me £48 delivered new on ebay from a UK seller. It works with Nikons TTL or you can set it to manual. Its great! Google it everyone raves about them.

MattUK 07-09-11 06:49 AM

[QUOTE=greenwing;61701]Does Howard09 ever come back & say thanks, or I don't understand, or anything? Or does he just go off & ask another question? Started 39 threads; posted 58 times. That's less than 50% return to threads started.[/QUOTE]

Hah. I was wondering the same thing. There's a couple of people here that ask the most basic questions that could be found by doing a google search faster than actually typing the question! Perhaps it's laziness...?


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