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Reinardina 09-08-11 08:56 AM

Vintage, but how old?
 
This is a question for the old hands among us, the specialists, the collectors.

This is my father's old Zeiss Ikon bellows camera. It was bought in the early fifties in Holland, from a proper photography shop, possibly second hand.

It is still in working order, only the selftimer is a bit sluggish, needs a bit more 'practice.'

It took brilliant pohotographs and it is also the camera I started out with as a child. ;)

Isn't it a Beauty?

Any idea how old it may be?

[URL="http://www.photoradar.com/files/imagecache/original_large/photos/users/reinardina/camera-2.jpg"][IMG]http://www.photoradar.com/files/imagecache/original_large/photos/users/reinardina/camera-2.jpg[/IMG][/URL]

dan123 09-08-11 09:06 AM

Had a Quick look on google and found this

1934-58 (1949) Zeiss Ikon AG, Stuttgart, Germany

[U][URL="http://www.mattdentonphoto.com/cameras/z_nettar.html"]HERE[/URL][/U]

Reinardina 09-08-11 11:57 AM

Thanks Dan. Looks like it, b ut somehow seems 'skinnier.' Not quite the same.

But tell you what? I never thought of looking on line to find out! How stupid can you (I) get?

I'll look into it when I have a bit of spare time.

If anyone else knows, or finds something, please let me know.

GeoffWessex 09-08-11 01:39 PM

Worth checking [URL="http://www.mflenses.com/zeiss-ikon-cameras.html"]this page[/URL]. The "Prontor-S" refers to the shutter mechanism but this page shows Prontor-S only on 75mm lenses..... further down, a "Pronto" shutter is listed with a 105mm lens. One of those two options, I suspect. Depends on whether the camera take 6x6 (cm) or 6x9. There's a Forum on that site..... worth asking there - but the combination of lens and shutter on your model doesn't quite seem to fit in.

Reinardina 09-08-11 02:41 PM

[QUOTE=GeoffWessex;58957]Worth checking [URL="http://www.mflenses.com/zeiss-ikon-cameras.html"]this page[/URL]. The "Prontor-S" refers to the shutter mechanism but this page shows Prontor-S only on 75mm lenses..... further down, a "Pronto" shutter is listed with a 105mm lens. One of those two options, I suspect. Depends on whether the camera take 6x6 (cm) or 6x9. There's a Forum on that site..... worth asking there - but the combination of lens and shutter on your model doesn't quite seem to fit in.[/QUOTE]

Thanks Geoff. I'll look into it.
My camera seems to have a 105 mm lens. The negatives were, I thought, 4x8, not 6x9, but I could be mistaken. it is all a very, very long time ago. Must have some negatives somewhere, I might dig out. They were definitely not square, that I [I]do[/I] know.

I recently dug out the camera, just for fun, but I'm becoming intrigued now. The more I look into it, the less I know.

It's a beautiful thing though, so solidly built and so easy (still) to open and use.

Reinardina 09-08-11 06:29 PM

Ikonta C 521/2 with Tessar and Compur shutter

Year of release: 1947
Type: viewfinder folding camera
Film/framesize: 120 / 6×9cm
Lens: Tessar 1:4.5/105mm or alternative Novar
Shutter: Compur shutter 1 - 1/250
Finder: two-frame finder

[URL="http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ikonta"]http://camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ikonta[/URL]

I think this may be the one; still not a hundred per cent sure though.

GeoffWessex 09-08-11 10:59 PM

Yours has deffo got a Prontor-S shutter mechanism... no sign of that on that Ikonta 521/2 (though it's a small picture), but it still seems right (and you can go for 1947 as build year)..... same lens and viewfinder but with the Prontor-S shutter - maybe an upgrade?

Reinardina 10-08-11 06:30 AM

[QUOTE=GeoffWessex;59005]Yours has deffo got a Prontor-S shutter mechanism... no sign of that on that Ikonta 521/2 (though it's a small picture), but it still seems right (and you can go for 1947 as build year)..... same lens and viewfinder but with the Prontor-S shutter - maybe an upgrade?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I was a bit puzzled about that. So I'm still not there yet.

Anyone else any ideas?

riddell 12-08-11 04:53 PM

Is there not a model number on it?

Paul.
[url]www.photographybyriddell.co.uk[/url]

Reinardina 28-08-11 12:24 PM

[QUOTE=riddell;59289]Is there not a model number on it?

Paul.
[url]www.photographybyriddell.co.uk[/url][/QUOTE]

Paul,

Thanks for the tip.

Got sidetracked by all sorts of things and almost forgot about this thread.

I just found a (model?) number: Nettar515/2.
A quick glance on the internet revealed one from 1937, which is however not the same camera.

Will have to come back to it when I have more time.


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